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Chronomodra
 10 Jul 2008, 14:08 #38919 Reply To Post
As posted over on Lit Soup, the L. Perkins Literary Agency is giving out personal rejection letters to queries received over the course of the next two weeks (until the 23rd). Naturally, if your query is good enough, they'll ask for a partial, but if you've ever griped about 'those lazy, insensitive agents sending nothing but form rejections', here's your chance to get an honest opinion on your work.
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-Chro
Author of Blades of the Fallen and The Spirit Shifter
And blogger of Journey of the Scribe
richie_d
 10 Jul 2008, 14:24 #38924 Reply To Post
Thanks Chrono. Seems like a cool idea.

Just checked out their guidelines and it says they're looking for "science fiction and fantasy, horror, young adult fiction, and romance" so I guess my crime novel won't be appropriate for them.
Tommi
 10 Jul 2008, 14:43 #38928 Reply To Post
Yeah, but check out the post below where she gives a list of the books she'd like to see - this gives a slightly better idea of the kind of YA fiction she's looking at.
missmorston
 12 Jul 2008, 10:37 #39170 Reply To Post
I just submitted a query to her - thanks for the link Chro
I'll let y'all know what kind of personalised rejection I get. I can see it now ...

'Dear Ms Reed,
NO!

Well - that's personalised!!
Stop the sketch - it's too silly
eilidh
 12 Jul 2008, 15:05 #39178 Reply To Post
Dear Eilidh

HELL NO.




Beat that.

Keep writing.
missmorston
 12 Jul 2008, 15:31 #39185 Reply To Post
You're on! How much you want to bet?
JR

Stop the sketch - it's too silly
eilidh
 12 Jul 2008, 18:28 #39203 Reply To Post
hmmm not sure who's going to win.

a free will?
Keep writing.
missmorston
 12 Jul 2008, 19:13 #39204 Reply To Post
Quote: eilidh, Saturday, 12 Jul 2008 18:28
hmmm not sure who's going to win.

a free will?


Sure - you're on Only is it the winner or loser who gets one By the time we hear back I'll have my edit uploaded ready
JR

Stop the sketch - it's too silly
benkelly
 12 Jul 2008, 20:33 #39209 Reply To Post
Is this not the most negative sort of attitude, personalised rejections? Would you really want an agent that came at life from this angle?

Is she so not busy selling her client's work that she afford to patronise writers in her free time?


This post was last edited by benkelly, 12 Jul 2008, 20:35
"Suck it up, say thank you and move on."

eilidh
 12 Jul 2008, 20:58 #39211 Reply To Post
reminds me of Mat(t)... agents are not as busy as they want us believe.

A publisher (small) talked about how to find talent at a conference. It requires combing through thousands of submission to find the one diamond; however, small and new companies/agencies struggle to get this attention.
Keep writing.
missmorston
 12 Jul 2008, 21:01 #39212 Reply To Post
Quote: benkelly, Saturday, 12 Jul 2008 20:33
Is this not the most negative sort of attitude, personalised rejections? Would you really want an agent that came at life from this angle?

Is she so not busy selling her client's work that she afford to patronise writers in her free time?




I think she's using a trainee, Mo, from what she says on her blog. The idea is that she (the agent) filters the queries - things she is interested in will get a request for a partial, and those she passes on go to the trainee, to give her practice in learning which to pass up and which to bin (I suspect), plus a bit of a stab at critting maybe. I'm not reading anything into it - it's a US agent anyway (may not be up for stuff from the UK), but it's a bit of fun ain't it? And a novel approach to the slush pile Another thing stated on the blog is that she doesn't have a website, and has a yahoo email address. So I'm not counting the millions yet - just practicing honing my query letter skills
Maybe Chro can fill in a bit more detail for us?

JR

Stop the sketch - it's too silly
missmorston
 12 Jul 2008, 21:08 #39213 Reply To Post
A PS - a quick look at P&E gives the Lori Perkins agency as legit and highly recommended, so maybe worth a passing query?
Stop the sketch - it's too silly
planetszpuk
 12 Jul 2008, 23:05 #39224 Reply To Post
It's just so desperate,



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I'm in the doghouse (again). See my blog burn.
Chronomodra
 13 Jul 2008, 03:13 #39235 Reply To Post
Hmm. There seems to be some misunderstanding here, so I'll clarify.

The vast majority of agents (or at least the vast majority of American ones, I don't know how it is across the pond) only send out form rejections, for a number of reasons.

First, the number of people sending in queries necessitates it -- if they didn't send out form rejections, they'd never have time for anything else. Secondly, when they do make comments on an author's work, inevitably they get one of those idiots who sends them hate mail back and promises to strap dynamite to their dog, and that just doesn't encourage them to give out comments anymore. And lastly, for the people that are REALLY bad, it's hard to put down, "Please, do yourself a favor and stop writing.", so the form rejection is most polite.

The deal is this: one of this agency's interns (who sorts through their queries anyway before they get to the higher-ups) is going to go through the slush pile as normal, but for the next two weeks, if she does reject something, she will reply back with a personalized note saying why. This is quite valuable to those of us getting nothing but form rejections, because it gives us a clue as to what is holding us back. While critique sites like YWO are helpful for developing your writing, most of us here can't say for certain why someone's novel keeps getting rejected, at least not from an agent's perspective.

It's just another form of feedback, much like the professional critiques received by the top tenners here. If you find that sort of feedback patronizing, then by all means, don't bother taking advantage of it. But regardless of how you perceive it, they are going above and beyond what they need to do, and I think they should be commended for that.
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-Chro
Author of Blades of the Fallen and The Spirit Shifter
And blogger of Journey of the Scribe
benkelly
 13 Jul 2008, 07:40 #39237 Reply To Post
You are right and there is huge potential benefit in it. But I think it probably could have been sold better (considering agents are in the business of selling).

The professionals writing crits for YWO arrive at work from the point of it being the best on site for a given month. They come into it with a positive angle.

The L Perkins 'blog' article didn't make any suggestion of anything other than rejection. Though I'm sure it's not what was intended.

'We'll be making an extra effort to provide feedback on every manuscript we see in the next two weeks, even those we ultimately feel unable to take on...' would have done fine. No mention of rejection. No making the poor old writer feel like they're labrats for an intern.

I'm just being a picky old cow though
This post was last edited by benkelly, 13 Jul 2008, 07:46
"Suck it up, say thank you and move on."

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